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		<title>By: Ken Spitze</title>
		<link>http://queercents.com/2007/10/31/fairtax-and-why-it-is-important-to-the-lgbt-community/comment-page-1/#comment-189035</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Spitze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
I have begun to examine the pros and cons of the FairTax proposal. I would appreciate comments from all sides of the issue. Thanks! As I get further inot this, I&#039;ll come back with more specific comments and questions.
Ken Spitze
politicalandeconomicnumbers.blogspot.com&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-189035&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
I have begun to examine the pros and cons of the FairTax proposal. I would appreciate comments from all sides of the issue. Thanks! As I get further inot this, I&#8217;ll come back with more specific comments and questions.<br />
Ken Spitze<br />
politicalandeconomicnumbers.blogspot.com
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://queercents.com/2007/10/31/fairtax-and-why-it-is-important-to-the-lgbt-community/comment-page-1/#comment-120680</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got Neil Bortz latest book.  I hope to review it sometime soon.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-120680&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got Neil Bortz latest book.  I hope to review it sometime soon.
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		<title>By: Queercents &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Would You Give Up Your Favorite Tax Deduction?</title>
		<link>http://queercents.com/2007/10/31/fairtax-and-why-it-is-important-to-the-lgbt-community/comment-page-1/#comment-99372</link>
		<dc:creator>Queercents &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Would You Give Up Your Favorite Tax Deduction?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the federal level, a consumption-based tax like the Fair Tax would be fantastic (although I wouldn&#8217;t be willing to vote for Huckabee to get it), but [...]&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-99372&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the federal level, a consumption-based tax like the Fair Tax would be fantastic (although I wouldn&#8217;t be willing to vote for Huckabee to get it), but [...]
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		<title>By: Pride &#38; Opinions &#187; Blog Archive &#187; FairTax: Good for GLBT couples?</title>
		<link>http://queercents.com/2007/10/31/fairtax-and-why-it-is-important-to-the-lgbt-community/comment-page-1/#comment-95091</link>
		<dc:creator>Pride &#38; Opinions &#187; Blog Archive &#187; FairTax: Good for GLBT couples?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] me to read posts I might not have read before throughout the year. Through that method, I found this post about FairTax, which is basically a new tax proposition being advocated by at least a couple of presidential [...]&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-95091&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] me to read posts I might not have read before throughout the year. Through that method, I found this post about FairTax, which is basically a new tax proposition being advocated by at least a couple of presidential [...]
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		<title>By: WTTO</title>
		<link>http://queercents.com/2007/10/31/fairtax-and-why-it-is-important-to-the-lgbt-community/comment-page-1/#comment-81108</link>
		<dc:creator>WTTO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the pre-bate needs to be well above the &quot;Federal poverty level&quot; before I would even start to consider fairtax. In most urban areas, even at the federal poverty level, you can&#039;t afford to live reasonably, especially with kids.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-81108&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the pre-bate needs to be well above the &#8220;Federal poverty level&#8221; before I would even start to consider fairtax. In most urban areas, even at the federal poverty level, you can&#8217;t afford to live reasonably, especially with kids.
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		<title>By: Queercents &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I moved to Indianapolis for the money!</title>
		<link>http://queercents.com/2007/10/31/fairtax-and-why-it-is-important-to-the-lgbt-community/comment-page-1/#comment-80962</link>
		<dc:creator>Queercents &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I moved to Indianapolis for the money!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mild grammar errors.  My interests are in real estate, debt reduction, and tax reform (including FairTax).  The vast majority of my posts will tend to fall in these categories….and I hope to learn a [...]&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-80962&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mild grammar errors.  My interests are in real estate, debt reduction, and tax reform (including FairTax).  The vast majority of my posts will tend to fall in these categories….and I hope to learn a [...]
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		<title>By: Queercents &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Queercents introduces Phil Lavoie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Queercents &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Queercents introduces Phil Lavoie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] writer. Meet Phil Lavoie. A couple of week’s ago, Phil asked to write a guest post about the FairTax plan and the LGBT community. He’s a fan. Some of you weren’t quite as enthusiastic about his ideas. [...]&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-80959&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] writer. Meet Phil Lavoie. A couple of week’s ago, Phil asked to write a guest post about the FairTax plan and the LGBT community. He’s a fan. Some of you weren’t quite as enthusiastic about his ideas. [...]
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hank, You are always welcome to join in the dialogue.  I&#039;m sorry to hear that you were banned from the other FairTax blogs, especially if you were adding your insight.  By &quot;popular&quot; I was only referencing the fact that you have a lot of FairTax dialogue in the Internet space.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-79769&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hank, You are always welcome to join in the dialogue.  I&#8217;m sorry to hear that you were banned from the other FairTax blogs, especially if you were adding your insight.  By &#8220;popular&#8221; I was only referencing the fact that you have a lot of FairTax dialogue in the Internet space.
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		<title>By: Hank Van Gieson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank Van Gieson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My goodness, Phil.  You need to define &quot;popular&quot; for me, because over the last year, I have been banned from the Fairtaxblog, as well as the Fairtaxgroups site. It appears that those two otherwise excellent sources of information will not tolerate Fairtax opponents,--only fellow Kool-Aide drinkers are welcome.

Perhaps that&#039;s how grass roots efforts should work, but I sort of think that lots of folks, including Mike Huckabee, are getting pretty far out on the limb over HR25.  Remember, I support changing to a national consumption tax, but firmly believe that the authors of HR25 tried to do too much.  Too many moving parts for their proposal to be taken seriously, especially by seniors such as myself.

To repeat, as a senior under the Fairtax: (1) My effective tax rate will go up; (2) My state/local taxes will rise by 30%; (3) My savings will be double taxed;  (4)Prices at the cash register will rise by an average of 17%; (5) My investments will be charged an implicit tax every month; and (6)I will have to resume paying into the SS Trust funds with my sales tax dollars.
Not a pretty picture, and I&#039;d be happy to discuss each and every criticism, along with many other non-personal ones, with anyone any time. 

And no, I&#039;m not a member of your community, but I believe everyone needs to fully understand the details of this Fairtax scheme, because the devil really is in the details/fine print.

Ask me anything on your other site and I will respond promptly.

Best regards,

Hank&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-79453&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My goodness, Phil.  You need to define &#8220;popular&#8221; for me, because over the last year, I have been banned from the Fairtaxblog, as well as the Fairtaxgroups site. It appears that those two otherwise excellent sources of information will not tolerate Fairtax opponents,&#8211;only fellow Kool-Aide drinkers are welcome.</p>
<p>Perhaps that&#8217;s how grass roots efforts should work, but I sort of think that lots of folks, including Mike Huckabee, are getting pretty far out on the limb over HR25.  Remember, I support changing to a national consumption tax, but firmly believe that the authors of HR25 tried to do too much.  Too many moving parts for their proposal to be taken seriously, especially by seniors such as myself.</p>
<p>To repeat, as a senior under the Fairtax: (1) My effective tax rate will go up; (2) My state/local taxes will rise by 30%; (3) My savings will be double taxed;  (4)Prices at the cash register will rise by an average of 17%; (5) My investments will be charged an implicit tax every month; and (6)I will have to resume paying into the SS Trust funds with my sales tax dollars.<br />
Not a pretty picture, and I&#8217;d be happy to discuss each and every criticism, along with many other non-personal ones, with anyone any time. </p>
<p>And no, I&#8217;m not a member of your community, but I believe everyone needs to fully understand the details of this Fairtax scheme, because the devil really is in the details/fine print.</p>
<p>Ask me anything on your other site and I will respond promptly.</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Hank
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PiggyBankBlues,

I have a feeling that we have had some comments, including that of Hank, that are not actually members of the LGBT community, but rather, national opponents or supporters of FairTax.  If you search for &quot;Hank Van Gieson&quot; you will see that he is very popular on the FairTax blogs.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-79443&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PiggyBankBlues,</p>
<p>I have a feeling that we have had some comments, including that of Hank, that are not actually members of the LGBT community, but rather, national opponents or supporters of FairTax.  If you search for &#8220;Hank Van Gieson&#8221; you will see that he is very popular on the FairTax blogs.
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