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		<title>By: A Million Dollar Retirement By The Age Of 50? @ The Carnivals</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Million Dollar Retirement By The Age Of 50? @ The Carnivals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 07:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 16:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well..... I recently bought a new car. I knew I was going to buy a Honda. Been driving Hondas ever since my experience with a lemon Ford Tempo back in the mid 80&#039;s. I did my research ... checked blue book price for my old car so I knew what it was worth trade-in and what the dealer could get for it. Also knew what I could sell it outright for but I really wanted to deal with the dealer. Cos you know in the past I haven&#039;t done so well and I wanted to redeem myself. 

First offer they made me for my car was predictably an offer you would make to a woman who you didn&#039;t think was savvy. It actually ticked me off. I told the salesman it was an insult... which it was.  

To make a long story short .... when I walked in I wanted $5500 trade on my car and 6% interest on the loan for the new one..... I walked out with $4500 trade on my car ($5000was bluebook trade price) and 5.24% interest on the new car loan. I have a beautiful new 2008 Honda Fit and I&#039;m loving it. And I think I did as well as anyone could on the dealing. I came out ok and I think the dealership/salesman did too .&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-128183&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;.. I recently bought a new car. I knew I was going to buy a Honda. Been driving Hondas ever since my experience with a lemon Ford Tempo back in the mid 80&#8217;s. I did my research &#8230; checked blue book price for my old car so I knew what it was worth trade-in and what the dealer could get for it. Also knew what I could sell it outright for but I really wanted to deal with the dealer. Cos you know in the past I haven&#8217;t done so well and I wanted to redeem myself. </p>
<p>First offer they made me for my car was predictably an offer you would make to a woman who you didn&#8217;t think was savvy. It actually ticked me off. I told the salesman it was an insult&#8230; which it was.  </p>
<p>To make a long story short &#8230;. when I walked in I wanted $5500 trade on my car and 6% interest on the loan for the new one&#8230;.. I walked out with $4500 trade on my car ($5000was bluebook trade price) and 5.24% interest on the new car loan. I have a beautiful new 2008 Honda Fit and I&#8217;m loving it. And I think I did as well as anyone could on the dealing. I came out ok and I think the dealership/salesman did too .
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		<title>By: j</title>
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		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 00:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offense Mike, but we generally don&#039;t have qualms paying more for that for good legal service or medical care and that&#039;s a zillion times more expensive. I don&#039;t think even $20 bucks an hour for a great service experience is too much to ask for. Especially when I know that most sales people only sell a few cars a week.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-127909&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense Mike, but we generally don&#8217;t have qualms paying more for that for good legal service or medical care and that&#8217;s a zillion times more expensive. I don&#8217;t think even $20 bucks an hour for a great service experience is too much to ask for. Especially when I know that most sales people only sell a few cars a week.
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erica, Great idea with the faxing. My new car experience was much better than when i bought used and the dealership was actually quite pleasant.

J, $200 bucks for a couple hours sounds like good money to me.  :P&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-127875&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erica, Great idea with the faxing. My new car experience was much better than when i bought used and the dealership was actually quite pleasant.</p>
<p>J, $200 bucks for a couple hours sounds like good money to me.  <img src='http://queercents.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: j</title>
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		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I put a lot more value into customer service than I do in price. Honestly, for most cars (Japanese makes, at least) there is SO much competition that there is actually VERY little mark up on new vehicles (used is another story all together) I&#039;m ok with the dealership making a little bit of money on me because I know how much the sales people make - sometimes it&#039;s just 20% of the total gross profit. So if the dealership makes 1000 on a new vehicle, The sales person gets maybe $200. Usually, they&#039;ve spent quite some time with me, either on email or the phone, and then at least a couple hours at the dealership. Maybe they spend less than that but the transaction goes SO smoothly that I&#039;m ok with them actually making a living for themselves. I want to work with a dealership that has employees that can take care of their families. Having worked in the industry I know the days of huge markups and HUGE commissions are long gone.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-127855&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put a lot more value into customer service than I do in price. Honestly, for most cars (Japanese makes, at least) there is SO much competition that there is actually VERY little mark up on new vehicles (used is another story all together) I&#8217;m ok with the dealership making a little bit of money on me because I know how much the sales people make &#8211; sometimes it&#8217;s just 20% of the total gross profit. So if the dealership makes 1000 on a new vehicle, The sales person gets maybe $200. Usually, they&#8217;ve spent quite some time with me, either on email or the phone, and then at least a couple hours at the dealership. Maybe they spend less than that but the transaction goes SO smoothly that I&#8217;m ok with them actually making a living for themselves. I want to work with a dealership that has employees that can take care of their families. Having worked in the industry I know the days of huge markups and HUGE commissions are long gone.
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		<title>By: Erica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swore, unless I&#039;m buying another Saturn or perhaps buying a BMW, that I will not set foot in a dealership. Fax around method for me. Decide exactly what model and features I want, fax off a request to each local dealership, and then let the bids roll in. Take the lowest one, fire off a second round of faxes, and then choose the lowest price and go there to sign the paperwork.

Last time I went car shopping I went to a Toyota dealer and, despite my being more than willing to spend plenty of money and wait long enough for a new Prius, I had such a horrible customer service experience I vowed to never buy from them.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-127839&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swore, unless I&#8217;m buying another Saturn or perhaps buying a BMW, that I will not set foot in a dealership. Fax around method for me. Decide exactly what model and features I want, fax off a request to each local dealership, and then let the bids roll in. Take the lowest one, fire off a second round of faxes, and then choose the lowest price and go there to sign the paperwork.</p>
<p>Last time I went car shopping I went to a Toyota dealer and, despite my being more than willing to spend plenty of money and wait long enough for a new Prius, I had such a horrible customer service experience I vowed to never buy from them.
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		<title>By: GDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>GDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for you!  Most of my car purchases have been less deliberate than that.  I do my homework on the car, but not on the price.  Thanks for the tips for next time.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-127786&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for you!  Most of my car purchases have been less deliberate than that.  I do my homework on the car, but not on the price.  Thanks for the tips for next time.
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