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	<title>Comments on: News Bites: “As California goes, so does the nation”</title>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Micah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 16:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s exciting to see state governments realizing something that made a lot of sense to most of us years ago. I can see the other side, though &quot;Why celebrate something which I should have had to begin with.&quot; Still, it&#039;s better than  NOT having marriages.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-128457&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s exciting to see state governments realizing something that made a lot of sense to most of us years ago. I can see the other side, though &#8220;Why celebrate something which I should have had to begin with.&#8221; Still, it&#8217;s better than  NOT having marriages.
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		<title>By: Queercents &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How gays and lesbians can sway rest of the country on gay marriage: Wed with our wallets!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Queercents &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How gays and lesbians can sway rest of the country on gay marriage: Wed with our wallets!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 13:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week, many of us had reason to celebrate as the California Supreme Court ruled that the ban here on gay marriage is unconstitutional. I’ve [...]&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-128428&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] week, many of us had reason to celebrate as the California Supreme Court ruled that the ban here on gay marriage is unconstitutional. I’ve [...]
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		<title>By: Jeremy Dawes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Dawes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 18:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am careful in my reply. Canada is not an alternative- we would wish for our kids to be with us- we can’t bring the baby over the edge. Love doesn&#039;t need outside validation.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-128192&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am careful in my reply. Canada is not an alternative- we would wish for our kids to be with us- we can’t bring the baby over the edge. Love doesn&#8217;t need outside validation.
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 05:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Celine, you make a good point. I see where you&#039;re coming from. I&#039;ve had a similar excitement when reading about Netherlands, Belguim, Spain, South Africa and Canada allowing gay marriage. 

I agree with you and DivaJean that your love doesn&#039;t need outside validation. I think I may be part of another generation that has had a taste of more tolerant attitudes towards gays. For me, marriage isn&#039;t just a matter of validation of my love for my partner. I just want to be treated as an equal. I guess I&#039;m committed to both my relationship with my partner and asserting equal protection for it.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-128123&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Celine, you make a good point. I see where you&#8217;re coming from. I&#8217;ve had a similar excitement when reading about Netherlands, Belguim, Spain, South Africa and Canada allowing gay marriage. </p>
<p>I agree with you and DivaJean that your love doesn&#8217;t need outside validation. I think I may be part of another generation that has had a taste of more tolerant attitudes towards gays. For me, marriage isn&#8217;t just a matter of validation of my love for my partner. I just want to be treated as an equal. I guess I&#8217;m committed to both my relationship with my partner and asserting equal protection for it.
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		<title>By: Celine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 03:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, since I live in a very conservative Asian country, this type of news makes me jump with joy and say &quot;Wow! Only 10,000 more years to go before I can get married here!&quot;

But, like DivaJean, my partner and I are too busy living together and worrying about house payments and savings and watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer DVDs to deal with these technicalities.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-128099&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, since I live in a very conservative Asian country, this type of news makes me jump with joy and say &#8220;Wow! Only 10,000 more years to go before I can get married here!&#8221;</p>
<p>But, like DivaJean, my partner and I are too busy living together and worrying about house payments and savings and watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer DVDs to deal with these technicalities.
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 01:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Maine will be a while in coming, but we&#039;re already planning to get legally married on our existing anniversary.  

For what it&#039;s worth, I think you&#039;re right to get your hopes up!  Glenn Greenwald has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/05/15/california/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;great article at Salon.com&lt;/a&gt; about why this decision makes sense in California law.

We have to win the country one state at a time.  It&#039;ll take some time, but we&#039;ll do it.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-128088&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Maine will be a while in coming, but we&#8217;re already planning to get legally married on our existing anniversary.  </p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I think you&#8217;re right to get your hopes up!  Glenn Greenwald has a <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/05/15/california/" rel="nofollow">great article at Salon.com</a> about why this decision makes sense in California law.</p>
<p>We have to win the country one state at a time.  It&#8217;ll take some time, but we&#8217;ll do it.
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		<title>By: DivaJean</title>
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		<dc:creator>DivaJean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am cautious in my responses. And I underline that NY State still has no recognition- unless you go elsewhere and bring it back. Canada is not an option- we would want our kids with us- we can&#039;t bring the baby over the border (adoption not final). Massachusetts is too far with the kids- and California is out of the question. 

I am too busy living my married life to have to keep focusing on *how married* I am or am not in the grand scheme of things.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-128054&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am cautious in my responses. And I underline that NY State still has no recognition- unless you go elsewhere and bring it back. Canada is not an option- we would want our kids with us- we can&#8217;t bring the baby over the border (adoption not final). Massachusetts is too far with the kids- and California is out of the question. </p>
<p>I am too busy living my married life to have to keep focusing on *how married* I am or am not in the grand scheme of things.
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have domestic partnerships here in DC too!&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-128051&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have domestic partnerships here in DC too!
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